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killacross wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:34 pm strongest Swordsman
...not strongest.

Mihawk probably has better skill/technique,...but the Elder is stronger than him in a brawl

Colep924 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:19 pm I agree, but only because they have some gimmick making them invulnerable to all forms of attack. Once that gets solved I'd say most ultra high level characters can deal with them

killacross wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:42 am

Colep924 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:19 pm I agree, but only because they have some gimmick making them invulnerable to all forms of attack. Once that gets solved I'd say most ultra high level characters can deal with them

I suspect seastone becomes more prominent as the story concludes. It's supposed to be rare...so the government would have the resources to find/mine/extract it And it negates devil fruit attacks and was super resistant to regular/haki attack.

I wouldnt consider it a gimmick because it was in the story since like chapter 3

Colep924 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 8:59 pm Whatever's going on with the Elders has not been in the story since chapter 3. They've been cut in half lit on fire and tanked blows from Gear 5 Luffy. They have something making them basically invincible

killacross wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 11:10 pm

Colep924 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 8:59 pm Whatever's going on with the Elders has not been in the story since chapter 3. They've been cut in half lit on fire and tanked blows from Gear 5 Luffy. They have something making them basically invincible

Awakened Zoans are crazy resistant to damage. I'd guess a mythical, awakened, zoan would be even more resistant. And then the 5 elders are crazy strong on top of that. I'm thinking similar resilience to Marco...tho we understand the lore around a phoenix. I have no idea about Japanese folktales and those animals

Colep924 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 12:15 pm I don't know if Marco awakened, most likely, but we certainly have that example in him. However, the elders are on a whole other level. Wounds closing seemingly magically, the San Worm was literally cut into three pieces and he's up and at em. I'd be willing to bet it is tied to their fruits but it's some kind of ability unique to them. They can also communicate telepathically over vast distances, and travel via magic circles. I think we have something new going on here

killacross wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 8:14 pm

Colep924 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 12:15 pm I don't know if Marco awakened, most likely, but we certainly have that example in him. However, the elders are on a whole other level. Wounds closing seemingly magically, the San Worm was literally cut into three pieces and he's up and at em. I'd be willing to bet it is tied to their fruits but it's some kind of ability unique to them. They can also communicate telepathically over vast distances, and travel via magic circles. I think we have something new going on here

To clarify... I meant they have a level of resilience that would rival Marco...but we understand Marco's resilience is from his Phoenix devil fruit (not that he has awakened)

And the awakened Zoans in Impel Down were crazy resilient...and they were failed users as awakened Zoans. So I'm assuming that Zoans [who have awakened] and are at peak ability would be on a completely different level.

Logia's are attack whores at their peak...Zoans are def whores at their peak...Paramecia are AOE whores at their peak
...I dunno