Lauren Chen had interesting thoughts about it because she had been approached by both DW, Crowder, and others over the years so she has a bit of insight into how they both approach contracts and working conditions. She isn't a fan of the way DW does business but doesn't have any bad blood with them, she pointed out in the Crowder video that Jeremy Boreing kept implying that "that's how business is done" but she was adamant that other places do not have that kind of that stuff in their term sheets.killacross wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:02 am#1 Invicible!! YAY!! Still miss Eve's comicbook costume.Digital Masta wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:01 am So...how about that Daily Wire vs Steven Crowder situation. I fully understand DW's business model and why that initial offer was structured the way it was and I can understand Crowder's feelings too.
Crowder leaking the tape left a bad taste in my mouth but all the DW talent going ham on Crowder makes them look really bad, especially Candace who acted like a complete asshat on both her show and Timcast.
Also it's kinda sus that they all did it at once and have attacking him personally. Crowder made himself look better by praising the people he knew at DW which was smart.
They also all focus on the money which Crowder said it wasn't about.
Looks like they gave the Invincible team more money because this short teaser looks way better than the entire first season.
#2 Was OOTL with the whole Steven Crowder thing. I haven't listened to one of his shows in years and years. I searched 1 YT video...and now my suggested videos are inundated with reactions and reactions to reactions. My understanding is they approached him with a $50M contract. He didn't like the numbers/contingencies and put them on blast for the terms (even though he never signed it).
I'd have to dig into it more...BUT, my initial, gut reaction is to side with DW. I would assume that social media is a HUGE portion of their proposed budget...so obviously - if you get the job and fuck up and not produce shows (or get Andrew Tate'd)...the money dries up...for both of you. I doubt the DW believes he could convert 100% his following into subscribers for them. Not to mention...there is probably already like a 90% overlap between the two...because I can't think of any particularly big issues that would cause a divide.
No idea what the others said about him...and probably wouldn't even dig into it that far. Personally, I'm trying to figure out my own $50M hustle...
though I'd settle for $5M at this point (still looking at you SF!!)
Crowder was basically saying that the contracts are bad for people who don't have the following he has. The up-and-comers and he took issue with that, either way, releasing the recorded conversation was scummy. I totally understand where DW is coming from, advertisers are simply built into their business model and you can't just change that at a drop of a hat.
Either way, Crowder will be fine in the long run, it's just now that he and the DW are clearly never gonna speak to each other again. And I still stand by the statement that Candace acted like an asshat. She had every right to be upset by what he did but Candace gonna Candace and do stupid shit like call his audience stupid and just lob character bombs at him.
Unrelated but I wanted to spell Boreing's name correctly so I googled it and went to his Wikipedia, which led me to their entry of Libs of TikTok, and my god...Wikipedia really is a dumpster fire. This is how they describe her (the owner of that channel):
Everything that isn't left of center is far-right in the eyes of Wikipedia and any criticism of the Alphabet Mafia results in being "anti-LGBT"."Libs of TikTok is a far-right[a] anti-LGBT Twitter account owned by Chaya Raichik, a former real estate agent. It reposts content created by left-wing and LGBT people on TikTok, and on other social media platforms, often with hostile, mocking, or derogatory commentary. The account, also known by the handle @libsoftiktok, has over 1.5 million followers as of November 2022, and has become influential among American conservatives and the political right. Raichik says she runs the account by herself full-time and lives in Los Angeles. Libs of TikTok's social media accounts have received several temporary suspensions and a permanent suspension from TikTok. "