TL;DR - I didn't argue with anyone, I just rambled as I attempted to respond to comments. Feel free to skip topics by quote blocks (or just the whole post entirely).
Fed inflation efforts should start impacting us in a few months. Things like removing the gas tax help people living paycheck to paycheck, but inflation isn't the problem.
July 2021 cost: $3.185
Inflation: 9%
Estimated June 2022 cost: $3.47165
Actual cost: $5.107
Cost not attributed to inflation: $1.63535 or 50%.
So yeah. Inflation is AN issue, but isn't THE issue. The issue is that people realized they can jack their prices and blame Biden, and... it worked. For a while. Then it backfired when things got too expensive, and people stopped buying as much so profits actually dropped (see: start of bear market). Gas is more nuanced thanks to the Russian/Ukranian war, but only 8% of our gas is sourced from Russia (if I recall correctly). It's more that it drives up the price of crude. Crude is up about... 50%. There's your cost. Inflation cost you $0.29, Russia/economics cost you $1.635.
killacross wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 1:19 am
You mad, mad...
I troll, I troll.
Seriously though... This is gonna backfire in ways unforseen. It always does.
Grats on the kid, just now saw that.
Backfires:
- Increased healthcare costs, because our medical system is stupid
- Increased wait times at hospitals, because having a child is a billion times harder than taking a pill after having sex
- Loss of jobs/wages for women when they can't work or have to give up their future if they're pregnant early
- Increased population of children that can't be supported, stressing our already stressed out social nets
- Increased stress on schools, especially in the poorest neighborhoods
- Increased suicide rate, especially in teenagers (likely statistically insignificant, but it's there)
- Increased deaths from pregnancies that go wrong
- Increased deaths from "home remedy abortions" (beatings, fallings, coat hangers, etc)
- There's a correlation between crime and abortion, though it's in dispute. There has been some validation, but it's more that abortion allows for fewer teenage mothers and fewer teenage mothers means lower crime when their kids grow up. For those of you who are proponents of having a father figure in your life... there are going to be a lot more kids without them.
Keep in mind all of those impact the poor the most.
And the biggest one (imo)...
- Defining a life at conception means that any miscarriage or even the morning after pill is an abortion by legal definition. If you wanted to somehow parse out "natural" miscarriages from "unnatural" miscarriages (e.g. taking Mifegymiso), well, good luck. Who even knows what caused your miscarriage? Maybe it was something you did and you had no idea it was a risk? Maybe you had to take cancer drugs so that you wouldn't die and you lost the gamble? At least you probably get manslaughter instead of homicide for some of these?
I think what a LOT of people (in general) don't get is the difference between what they think is right and how the law impacts people. It's easy to say "abortion is wrong, trans-girls shouldn't play sports, etc" and it's
incredibly difficult to do that legally because of how laws are applied, which goes back to your unforeseen consequences bit.
San Goku wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:48 pm
Good job America on Roe v Wade, some hope for humanity and the most vulnerable.
The overturning reminded me about this story a couple months back.
Link:
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/21/americas ... index.html
Literally no one said anything or criticized the decision to abortion up to 24 weeks.
Edit:
Ppl just told me in Canada we allow up to 8 months, how did I not know this
. We also have a disgusting clause where it can be as easy as wanting a boy or girl as the reason
Edit:
@DM where was the link on abortion statistics that you shared a couple months back? I want to share.
This article seems to be sourced well enough, but I don't have time anymore to read sources of sources terribly thoroughly:
https://www.verywellhealth.com/reasons- ... ion-906589
You're wrong about the abortion up to 8 months, and not in the way you probably think I'm going to say - it's legal up until birth:
Meanwhile, the fetal rights issue was ultimately decided in the 1989 case Tremblay v Daigle. The Supreme Court found that only a person had constitutional rights, and that such rights began at the time of live birth. The Court also decided that the father of a fetus has no proprietary interest in a fetus; he may not obtain an injunction to prevent a woman from exercising her right of choice to have an abortion.
Again, that's mostly quick google searching, but I couldn't find anything quickly that contradicted that and a few others that corroborated it. That said, Canada has a low abortion rate and 90%+ abort in the first trimester.
Digital Masta wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 2:52 am
I don't doubt it. It's gonna be a mess but it will eventually level out in the long term. The short term though...a new summer of love potentially coming.
Amusingly (I guess), by definition this particular issue would never level out long term. It would always get worse, because there will be more people. If you can think of a scenario where more people = good by virtue of existing, then obviously that would get better.