There we go

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Re: There we go

Post by Digital Masta » Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:40 am

xandorxerxes wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:10 am

I saw that on Rotten Tomatoes. May watch anyways just because CB was one of my original animes that I loved. Looks like most of the scores are driven by their "top critics" though. Apparently Wheel of Time is slowly coming around for people too, hoping CB stands up after initial fan butthurt.
Or maybe the show is shit? Why are the fans in the wrong or "butthurt" for being upset with it? As a comic book fan, I can tell you that I'm done giving these people the benefit of the doubt. Marvel and DC put out absolute trash comics now, they don't sell and they are being completely destroyed by manga. They hire woke writers that don't have the experience or talent to be writing the characters they have been given and have only been given these characters because of intersectional diversity hiring. The reason I bring this up is that it looks like CB is the same, really these people are all the same.

See, what they think is that ideology and politics must infuse everything because that's how they live their lives and they also know that they'd never make it if tried doing something original and getting people to buy it so they weasel their way into a position where they can hijack and already existing property with a strong fanbase. They can then inject all of their ideology and politics into it, they don't care about the source material, its history of the original creators. It's just a vehicle to deliver, as Critical Drinker puts it, "THE MESSAGE!"

Or they feel threatened by these people and don't push back against this stuff.

Respect the source material, Marvel used to do this pretty well with their films. Especially in the early days which is one of the reasons why Sam Raimi Spider-man is still the most beloved, because it got Peter and Spider-man right.

Cowboy Bebop is no different and I'm not even super crazy about Cowboy Bebop. But as someone that has properties that I love and is seeing what wokeness is doing to them I fully understand and respect the backlash.

See, they wanted to "fix" Cowboy Bebop

https://society-reviews.com/2021/11/22/ ... imes-ever/

And on top of the frustration with how Faye's personality is being portrayed now she's gay because OF COURSE. Which as far as I know she wasn't in the anime.

https://www.cbr.com/cowboy-bebop-faye-valentine-queer/

Respect the god damn source. This is not your experimental petri dish for your politics, it's an established universe with characters that have histories, established personalities, and motivations.

And on top of all that, it's may also be bad on the TV production front which is also why critics hate it. It's so bad that the wokeness can't save it.

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Re: There we go

Post by xandorxerxes » Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:13 am

Digital Masta wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:40 am
xandorxerxes wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:10 am

I saw that on Rotten Tomatoes. May watch anyways just because CB was one of my original animes that I loved. Looks like most of the scores are driven by their "top critics" though. Apparently Wheel of Time is slowly coming around for people too, hoping CB stands up after initial fan butthurt.
Or maybe the show is shit? Why are the fans in the wrong or "butthurt" for being upset with it?
Going a bit out of context for what I was implying - I'm not saying the show isn't shit. I'm saying the fans that rate the show poorly just because it's not a transposition of the original are, in fact, in the wrong. I'm hoping, since I loved the original, that the show isn't shit and it's just a bunch of overly-passionate fans dragging the rating down.
And on top of all that, it's may also be bad on the TV production front which is also why critics hate it. It's so bad that the wokeness can't save it.
If wokeness was a factor for quality, CW wouldn't have shit ratings.

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Re: There we go

Post by Digital Masta » Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:44 pm

xandorxerxes wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:13 am
Digital Masta wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:40 am
xandorxerxes wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:10 am

I saw that on Rotten Tomatoes. May watch anyways just because CB was one of my original animes that I loved. Looks like most of the scores are driven by their "top critics" though. Apparently Wheel of Time is slowly coming around for people too, hoping CB stands up after initial fan butthurt.
Or maybe the show is shit? Why are the fans in the wrong or "butthurt" for being upset with it?
Going a bit out of context for what I was implying - I'm not saying the show isn't shit. I'm saying the fans that rate the show poorly just because it's not a transposition of the original are, in fact, in the wrong. I'm hoping, since I loved the original, that the show isn't shit and it's just a bunch of overly-passionate fans dragging the rating down.
And on top of all that, it's may also be bad on the TV production front which is also why critics hate it. It's so bad that the wokeness can't save it.
If wokeness was a factor for quality, CW wouldn't have shit ratings.

Fair enough.

My comment about not saving them was in regards to the fact that critics typically praise the whole woke stuff. Of course it doesn't actually translate to ratings because it's trash but the message must be pursued.

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Re: There we go

Post by xandorxerxes » Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:23 pm

Digital Masta wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:44 pm
xandorxerxes wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:13 am
Digital Masta wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:40 am


Or maybe the show is shit? Why are the fans in the wrong or "butthurt" for being upset with it?
Going a bit out of context for what I was implying - I'm not saying the show isn't shit. I'm saying the fans that rate the show poorly just because it's not a transposition of the original are, in fact, in the wrong. I'm hoping, since I loved the original, that the show isn't shit and it's just a bunch of overly-passionate fans dragging the rating down.
And on top of all that, it's may also be bad on the TV production front which is also why critics hate it. It's so bad that the wokeness can't save it.
If wokeness was a factor for quality, CW wouldn't have shit ratings.

Fair enough.

My comment about not saving them was in regards to the fact that critics typically praise the whole woke stuff. Of course it doesn't actually translate to ratings because it's trash but the message must be pursued.
That's true. I assumed the wokeness-praising would die down after the initial virtue signaling. To find out it didn't is sigh-inducing.

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Re: There we go

Post by Digital Masta » Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:29 am

California continues to show it's a terrible place. Nice job San Francisco.

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Re: There we go

Post by killacross » Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:52 am

You mean people shouldn't be allowed to loot stores? And not even for food...but for designer clothes and jewelry and etc etc etc?

Reminds me of that Boondocks episode where R Kelly was on trial....and they give Tom hell because he's married to a white woman...and then riot/protest for R Kelly because he starts singing in the courtroom

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Re: There we go

Post by superbob » Thu Nov 25, 2021 4:30 pm

Happy thanksgiving you fucks

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Re: There we go

Post by San Goku » Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:25 pm

Happy Thanksgiving guys. Hope you all enjoy your long weekend.

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