Digital Masta wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:36 pm
You left out the fact that Yugoslavia and that entire region was smashed into a giant Soviet block before being separated again after the fall of the USSR. That's not the exactly the same thing.
As I said, if we are going to refer to historical parallels that "May or may not be comparable", Yugoslavia is a worthy comparison by those standards.
Rising economic challenges coupled with fracturing social cohesion falling along ideological and nationalist lines culminated in one of the bloodiest era's of that part of the world.
Also strictly speaking, the beginning of Yugoslavia's downfall occurred well before the dissolution of the Warsaw pact and the economic collapse of the Soviet Union. Yugoslavia ceased to be a satellite not long after the second World War, when Stalin and Tito cut political ties and Yugoslavia isolated itself from the interests of the Soviets. The fall of the USSR destabilized the entire region absolutely but for SFRY(shortened for expediency) the writing was pretty much on the wall. The SFRY fell apart due to an implosion of conflicts collapsing in on it from all sides and ultimately culminated into full on war in the early 90's, the USSR dissolving just threw more gasoline on an already blazing inferno.
Digital Masta wrote:
Also, why does everyone assume that when people like me say this it means that tomorrow where just gonna get rid of everything? Start with the federal government having less and less power and then move to start moving to smaller and smaller government from there. This is like a 100-year plan. It can go very wrong if this is taken lightly.
You're willing to read any arguments I give you but you're not willing to look them up yourself. Which means you aren't really that interested. Which is fine. But it's not my job to do it for you.
I've researched the Philosophical concepts of Anarchism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Voluntaryism, Volunteerism( whatever the acceptable term is today) in the past, but no it's not a subject I have studied extensively. You've pointed to (and on more than one occasion) posted the political musings of Michael Malice who I have also listened to and researched, but the reason I'm more focused on your perspective is...well...that's who I'm talking to. If you want me to debate against his points, enumerate them and I'll exchange thoughts with him vicariously I guess.
But I find it far more enjoyable talking to you TBH.
Digital Masta wrote:
See, years ago, things I hadn't heard before crossed my path, I was curious so I began to look and listen to more about the subject and I gradually came to where I am now. This was years in the making for me.
Here's an article from Lew Rockwell.com and Lew has dedicated his whole life to this stuff so I'm sure there are plenty more articles you could read there. If you're interested Lew Rockwell's site can send you down a rabbit hole of Austrian Economic, libertarian/anarchist thinking.
This article is written by Stephan Molyneux and it is from WAY back in 2005. He also has two free books you can get in damn near every format available called Practical Anarchy and Everyday Anarchy. One is about the theory and the other is about how it could look in practice. Doesn't mean he's 100% right but people do think about this stuff.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2005/10/ste ... ernatives/
DRO's seem like a Novel idea, but what exactly are his thoughts on the scope of the State as it pertains to national defense?
How can a country raise Armies and defend itself with the complete abolition of the State? Private Contractors? That opens up so many questions.
xanderxerxes wrote:Essentially something to this effect, just on a personal level - I know the change is worse for me (and some others, see point 2), so changing to it isn't in my interests. To make it in my interests, at least some of those points would have to be addressed. The root of my issues is still just the divorcing of the public debate from reality, but I'd rather enable people to identify reality than stick all of the deniers into a different place. Yeah, I don't want them in my life if I can help it, but I also don't want people stuck and trapped to authoritarian whims at whatever government level. Smaller government levels also means more corruption, since it takes influencing a smaller number of people to reach the same ends. See: Tennessee municipal broadband and AT&T.
I honestly fear we're heading towards the direction of social/political cordoning. It's happening(and has been heppening...) in every facet of American life: Schools, companies, social services, News Organizations, Religious institutions are all digging deeper into the political identity ditch with no apparent end in sight. Take this approach to it's maximal height with enough time and enthusiasm, and we could see more than just voting demographics shift to different colors, we could see entire states. We're already seeing the exodus play out in real time, more and more people are moving to red states and blue states.
It's just a matter of time.