xandorxerxes wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:38 am
superbob wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:08 am
That phone call from trump was a big oof on his part... Not sure how that isn't federal election tampering
Based on my memory of recent articles I read and quick searches, it doesn't actually meet any legal definition for a crime. I'd go as far as to say that it's not even necessarily an ethics violation because for some reason I think he honestly believes that the GA election was fraudulent and that they're just not looking into it. Obviously it's got a mob feel to it because that's just how he is/talks - see Ukraine. GA Secretary of State can't win, even if he investigated a 4th time and came out with the same results he'd just get called incompetent for not seeing the fraud.
No extensive research and I'm not an authority on the subject, so obviously take all of that with a grain of salt.
in the phone call he asked him to find the necessary amount of votes to win the election by one, which would be, at least in my untrained eyes (though i'm sure they'll say anything to change the verdict)
A person, including an election official, who in any election for Federal office—
(1)knowingly and willfully intimidates, threatens, or coerces, or attempts to intimidate, threaten, or coerce, any person for—
(A)registering to vote, or voting, or attempting to register or vote;
(B)urging or aiding any person to register to vote, to vote, or to attempt to register or vote; or
(C)exercising any right under this chapter; or
(2)knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process, by—
(A)the procurement or submission of voter registration applications that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held; or
(B)the procurement, casting, or tabulation of ballots that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held,
While they might not be "known" to trump, though asking for the exact amount of votes needed to win the state by one and for him to word it as a "retabulation" it seems like he knows, he is asking for an individual who does know that those votes would be false.
You do get into a whole lot of weird laws when it comes to the president and what powers he has, and also on the other side RICO laws