There we go

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Re: There we go

Post by Cane_The9lives » Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:48 am

San Goku wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:59 pm
Cane_The9lives wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:26 pm
San Goku wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:04 am
I learn some interesting things on the net. I had no idea about the Born Alive Bill (now an Act) and how the Democrats fought against it. The Born Alive Bill is if a baby survives a failed abortion you have to provide care.... We are talking about already out the womb kicking and screaming.

Seen a clip of Jr Senator Ben Sasse ripping the Dems.

Link: https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-con ... e-bill/619

Link: https://youtu.be/tMTJZMHRM6U
Far be it from me to play Devil's advocate for the Democrats, but their argument is worth considering.
Essentially they argued the bill was superfluous and overly punitive, and its wording so easily misconstrued that it placed an undue burden on health-care providers fearing non-stop lawsuits and prosecution, thus altering their level of care.

The bill was essentially a Redux of another Act( still in effect) passed over two decades ago that basically ensured the same rights to the fetus born alive after a failed abortion, and was almost literally named the exact same way : "Born-Alive Infants Protection Act of 2002."

They argued it was unneeded and designed to attack Doctors for political gain, and not necessarily because they believed in infanticide, which of course was how it was spun. I hate Democrats, but I hate the malignant tumor of partisan spin even more.

I like Sasse, he's one of my favorite Senators, but he was hedging his bets to get the Dem's on record contesting the bill for political reasons.

FYI San it still hasn't passed into law. "Act" in this context is just a title, functionally it's still a bill.
Democrats 218 no 1 yes
Republicans 0 no 210 yes


I'll have to look into it more to see if it was just wording for the Bill not to pass, but I doubt that's the reason.

I wonder what the reason was for the 1 that was for it?

Okay still a Bill, thanks. So the Act cause it passed a certain point in the process of arguments and votes I assume.
Again, that's just part of its title regardless of what stage it is in the legislative process. All bills with "Act" in their title are functionally still bills, once ratified they become functional Acts I.e, law. Unless amended at the last second, they typically don't change titles so having "Act" in the language of the draft means nothing.

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Re: There we go

Post by Cane_The9lives » Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:12 pm

Digital Masta wrote:
Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:36 pm


You left out the fact that Yugoslavia and that entire region was smashed into a giant Soviet block before being separated again after the fall of the USSR. That's not the exactly the same thing.
As I said, if we are going to refer to historical parallels that "May or may not be comparable", Yugoslavia is a worthy comparison by those standards.
Rising economic challenges coupled with fracturing social cohesion falling along ideological and nationalist lines culminated in one of the bloodiest era's of that part of the world.
Also strictly speaking, the beginning of Yugoslavia's downfall occurred well before the dissolution of the Warsaw pact and the economic collapse of the Soviet Union. Yugoslavia ceased to be a satellite not long after the second World War, when Stalin and Tito cut political ties and Yugoslavia isolated itself from the interests of the Soviets. The fall of the USSR destabilized the entire region absolutely but for SFRY(shortened for expediency) the writing was pretty much on the wall. The SFRY fell apart due to an implosion of conflicts collapsing in on it from all sides and ultimately culminated into full on war in the early 90's, the USSR dissolving just threw more gasoline on an already blazing inferno.
Digital Masta wrote: Also, why does everyone assume that when people like me say this it means that tomorrow where just gonna get rid of everything? Start with the federal government having less and less power and then move to start moving to smaller and smaller government from there. This is like a 100-year plan. It can go very wrong if this is taken lightly.

You're willing to read any arguments I give you but you're not willing to look them up yourself. Which means you aren't really that interested. Which is fine. But it's not my job to do it for you.
I've researched the Philosophical concepts of Anarchism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Voluntaryism, Volunteerism( whatever the acceptable term is today) in the past, but no it's not a subject I have studied extensively. You've pointed to (and on more than one occasion) posted the political musings of Michael Malice who I have also listened to and researched, but the reason I'm more focused on your perspective is...well...that's who I'm talking to. If you want me to debate against his points, enumerate them and I'll exchange thoughts with him vicariously I guess.

But I find it far more enjoyable talking to you TBH.

Digital Masta wrote: See, years ago, things I hadn't heard before crossed my path, I was curious so I began to look and listen to more about the subject and I gradually came to where I am now. This was years in the making for me.

Here's an article from Lew Rockwell.com and Lew has dedicated his whole life to this stuff so I'm sure there are plenty more articles you could read there. If you're interested Lew Rockwell's site can send you down a rabbit hole of Austrian Economic, libertarian/anarchist thinking.


This article is written by Stephan Molyneux and it is from WAY back in 2005. He also has two free books you can get in damn near every format available called Practical Anarchy and Everyday Anarchy. One is about the theory and the other is about how it could look in practice. Doesn't mean he's 100% right but people do think about this stuff.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2005/10/ste ... ernatives/
DRO's seem like a Novel idea, but what exactly are his thoughts on the scope of the State as it pertains to national defense?
How can a country raise Armies and defend itself with the complete abolition of the State? Private Contractors? That opens up so many questions.
xanderxerxes wrote:Essentially something to this effect, just on a personal level - I know the change is worse for me (and some others, see point 2), so changing to it isn't in my interests. To make it in my interests, at least some of those points would have to be addressed. The root of my issues is still just the divorcing of the public debate from reality, but I'd rather enable people to identify reality than stick all of the deniers into a different place. Yeah, I don't want them in my life if I can help it, but I also don't want people stuck and trapped to authoritarian whims at whatever government level. Smaller government levels also means more corruption, since it takes influencing a smaller number of people to reach the same ends. See: Tennessee municipal broadband and AT&T.
I honestly fear we're heading towards the direction of social/political cordoning. It's happening(and has been heppening...) in every facet of American life: Schools, companies, social services, News Organizations, Religious institutions are all digging deeper into the political identity ditch with no apparent end in sight. Take this approach to it's maximal height with enough time and enthusiasm, and we could see more than just voting demographics shift to different colors, we could see entire states. We're already seeing the exodus play out in real time, more and more people are moving to red states and blue states.

It's just a matter of time.

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Re: There we go

Post by Haohmaru » Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:17 pm

New bleach trailer if anyone is interested
https://youtu.be/wPEu9nI21wA

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Re: There we go

Post by San Goku » Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:34 pm

That moment when you are on vacation with the fam, you think you are going to get some then your kid wants his mommy and can't go back to bed and is stuck in between you all night....I ended up sleeping on the couch 😞

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Re: There we go

Post by San Goku » Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:40 pm

Trigun trailer: https://youtu.be/AzZYXqUdp5o

Animation looks sexy af.

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Re: There we go

Post by killacross » Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:47 am

Jesus Joe Biden

$10 for a bottle of mouthwash? I'm just gonna buy a pair of pliers now

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Re: There we go

Post by Digital Masta » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:43 am

killacross wrote:
Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:47 am
Jesus Joe Biden

$10 for a bottle of mouthwash? I'm just gonna buy a pair of pliers now
Damn. That's crazy.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/twitter-h ... ts/281114/

What could go wrong?

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Re: There we go

Post by San Goku » Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:05 am

The Woman King: https://youtu.be/ADyBw7TUcYo

I want to like this movie. I hope someone or something won't ruin it for me.
Digital Masta wrote:
Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:43 am
killacross wrote:
Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:47 am
Jesus Joe Biden

$10 for a bottle of mouthwash? I'm just gonna buy a pair of pliers now
Damn. That's crazy.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/twitter-h ... ts/281114/

What could go wrong?
🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️ *facepalm*

Edit:

Dave Chapelle predicted Roe v Wade overturning.

https://youtu.be/MwNtyNlxQ9I

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Re: There we go

Post by Digital Masta » Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:08 am

So the reviews are coming out (not just "official" channels) but also on youtube and apparently Love and Thunder is kinda crap. Oh my god...who knew?

One of the common themes is that Thor is a bumbling moron but we all knew that was happening.

Again, Thor is over 1500 years old and has been through some shit (especially recently) the whole point at the end of Endgame was that he was done being the bumbling idiot but no apparently not.

The MCU fatigue is really starting to set it in.


https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/07/ ... e-portman/

I really don't like Taika's style. His ego is out of control, he loves the smell of his own farts. Between his "I'll ruin your mythos in a second..." comment and him doing something this stupid like forgetting that Natalie Portman played one the biggest roles in the Star Wars prequels just shows that he doesn't care at all about the material. He thinks he's better than it and he also just loves injecting himself into everything. Korg is apparently throughout the entire film being...well..."OH, I'm SO FUNNY" Korg, so basically I suspect he's ruining moments that should have more weight to them with his stupid ass comments. In Ragnarok, it was a bit more contained but now this film is going full Taika which again...we kinda knew was going to happen. I liken it to Tim Burton and the first two Batman films. The first one was Tim Burton restrained, but after the success of the first one they allowed him to go FULL TIM BURTON in the 2nd film and it ended up being the wrong move.


I seriously think his character in Free Guy is probably very close to the man himself.

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Re: There we go

Post by killacross » Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:11 pm

didnt realize there was a new season of Made in Abyss this season...

also...Overlord IV started this week as well....I'm just starting season 3...so let's get it!!

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Re: There we go

Post by Cane_The9lives » Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:03 pm

Digital Masta wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:08 am
So the reviews are coming out (not just "official" channels) but also on youtube and apparently Love and Thunder is kinda crap. Oh my god...who knew?

One of the common themes is that Thor is a bumbling moron but we all knew that was happening.

Again, Thor is over 1500 years old and has been through some shit (especially recently) the whole point at the end of Endgame was that he was done being the bumbling idiot but no apparently not.

The MCU fatigue is really starting to set it in.


https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/07/ ... e-portman/

I really don't like Taika's style. His ego is out of control, he loves the smell of his own farts. Between his "I'll ruin your mythos in a second..." comment and him doing something this stupid like forgetting that Natalie Portman played one the biggest roles in the Star Wars prequels just shows that he doesn't care at all about the material. He thinks he's better than it and he also just loves injecting himself into everything. Korg is apparently throughout the entire film being...well..."OH, I'm SO FUNNY" Korg, so basically I suspect he's ruining moments that should have more weight to them with his stupid ass comments. In Ragnarok, it was a bit more contained but now this film is going full Taika which again...we kinda knew was going to happen. I liken it to Tim Burton and the first two Batman films. The first one was Tim Burton restrained, but after the success of the first one they allowed him to go FULL TIM BURTON in the 2nd film and it ended up being the wrong move.


I seriously think his character in Free Guy is probably very close to the man himself.
So on a scale from 1 to 10, what would you rate the movie?

I was curious to see it but if it's not any good, I'm probably not going to waste my time.

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Re: There we go

Post by San Goku » Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:24 pm

Kazuki Takahashi, the manga artist who created ‘Yu-Gi-Oh has died. R.I.P! I hated the show but can't front on the global popularity it got.
killacross wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:11 pm
didnt realize there was a new season of Made in Abyss this season...

also...Overlord IV started this week as well....I'm just starting season 3...so let's get it!!
Good to know!

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Re: There we go

Post by Cane_The9lives » Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:30 pm

San Goku wrote: Trigun trailer: https://youtu.be/AzZYXqUdp5o

Animation looks sexy af.
Trigun is my all time favorite anime and it's not even close.

It looks like they are going a completely different direction in terms of style and tone, and I'm honestly not sure how I feel about it.
The thing I loved the most about the anime (and the manga for that matter) was the dichotomy of Vash's character. The bumbling effervescent pacifist, juxtaposed with that of a loner haunted by his past full of pain and anguish over the devastation and mayhem that followed him like a plague.

I obviously cant make any substantive evaluation after a mere 90+ second Trailer, but it definitely appears as if they are toning down the situational comedy for a more serious take.

I'll have to watch it before I can really give me two cents though.
But yes the animation is definitely clean, albeit it a bit too CGI for my taste.

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Re: There we go

Post by killacross » Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:57 pm

Cane_The9lives wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:03 pm
So on a scale from 1 to 10, what would you rate the movie?

I was curious to see it but if it's not any good, I'm probably not going to waste my time.
/clever girl
...you know he hasn't watched it... :lol:

I JUST watched Dr Strange 2 like a day or 2 ago
...absolute trash

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Re: There we go

Post by Digital Masta » Fri Jul 08, 2022 1:16 am

killacross wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:57 pm
Cane_The9lives wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:03 pm
So on a scale from 1 to 10, what would you rate the movie?

I was curious to see it but if it's not any good, I'm probably not going to waste my time.
/clever girl
...you know he hasn't watched it... :lol:
I know, right? I mean...come on bro, we've been through this already. 8-)

I pirated that movie and still can't bring myself to watch it. Every time I think I will I just don't.

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Re: There we go

Post by San Goku » Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:36 am

Yooooo ex Japanese PM shot in the back and head my boy is telling me.

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Re: There we go

Post by killacross » Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:03 am

Yep... And he died from it

I call shenanigans though

.. Where was his samurai protection squad?

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Re: There we go

Post by killacross » Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:41 pm

... No Twitter for Elon

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Re: There we go

Post by Cane_The9lives » Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:37 pm

Digital Masta wrote:
Fri Jul 08, 2022 1:16 am
killacross wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:57 pm
Cane_The9lives wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:03 pm
So on a scale from 1 to 10, what would you rate the movie?

I was curious to see it but if it's not any good, I'm probably not going to waste my time.
/clever girl
...you know he hasn't watched it... :lol:
I know, right? I mean...come on bro, we've been through this already. 8-)

I pirated that movie and still can't bring myself to watch it. Every time I think I will I just don't.
Can't blame a guy for trying. :D

I still hold out hope that one day you'll form your own opinions.

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Re: There we go

Post by Digital Masta » Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:12 am

Cane_The9lives wrote:
Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:37 pm
Digital Masta wrote:
Fri Jul 08, 2022 1:16 am
killacross wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:57 pm


/clever girl
...you know he hasn't watched it... :lol:
I know, right? I mean...come on bro, we've been through this already. 8-)

I pirated that movie and still can't bring myself to watch it. Every time I think I will I just don't.
Can't blame a guy for trying. :D

I still hold out hope that one day you'll form your own opinions.
One can only hope.

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