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It's less versatile and powerful than a pc?
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bingo, usually less money though, how much are they advertising this for?
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That and the PS5 don't come out till around this time next year so there's no price on either yet. I suspect them to cost between $400-600 though.
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Shout out to Superbob - we're encrypted now!
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superbob wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:12 pm bingo, usually less money though, how much are they advertising this for?
The Xbox series x has the latest AMD hardware but ya I guess you could just build your own pc. Not me though, I wouldn't know where to start.
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San Goku wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:10 am
superbob wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:12 pm bingo, usually less money though, how much are they advertising this for?
The Xbox series x has the latest AMD hardware but ya I guess you could just build your own pc. Not me though, I wouldn't know where to start.
...you start like everything else. On youtube of course
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killacross wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:20 am
San Goku wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:10 am
superbob wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:12 pm bingo, usually less money though, how much are they advertising this for?
The Xbox series x has the latest AMD hardware but ya I guess you could just build your own pc. Not me though, I wouldn't know where to start.
...you start like everything else. On youtube of course
True dat..... Got me thinking now. That would be a good diy project.
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San Goku wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:25 am True dat..... Got me thinking now. That would be a good diy project.
It's not really that hard, you just have to make sure you buy parts that are compatible. And then don't electrocute your parts when you put them together. Hardest part is troubleshooting if a part is dead. Also no 'computer' warranty if you need it - only basic ones on the parts. I'll be glad to help if you want/need it.

Last I looked though the savings from building your own isn't a lot (if any) over just buying a new one, but if you do I'd buy it direct from Microsoft to skip vendor bloatware. You can also just tell Windows to do a clean install once you get it too if you wanted to go through a vendor, MS is good about that now. Or Apple I guess, but not really.
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It really depends on what you're going to put into it, and how long you're willing to wait for parts. I was able to build a really solid pc for about $550 because I already had a video card (younger brother got a new card and gave me his 980) and it took me about 6 months to buy all the parts because I waited for sales. It was expedited at the end with my laptop dying, otherwise I would have saved about $100 off of that cost but it is what it is.

r/buildapcsales is a great place to lurk if you're trying to do it, but make sure your parts are compatible before buying
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Almost time for me to start looking at some new parts for mines too. Might just go with add on cards for some of the things instead of a complete build to save money though.
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i was gonna buy a new laptop just because. I dont really game or do anything on PC that would make it matter...I just want a battery that lasts longer than 3 minutes
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San Goku wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:10 am
superbob wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:12 pm bingo, usually less money though, how much are they advertising this for?
The Xbox series x has the latest AMD hardware but ya I guess you could just build your own pc. Not me though, I wouldn't know where to start.
The Xbox Series X has four times the processing power of the Xbox One X, and uses a custom AMD processor with the "latest Zen 2 and next-generation RDNA architecture." The system does 4K and 60FPS, of course, but is capable of doing 8K and 120FPS. Microsoft says that devs will also be able to take advantage of the Series X's GPU with Variable Rate Shading (VRS).

Piling on more acronyms, Microsoft is also giving the Xbox Series X Variable Refresh Rate (VRR) and Auto-Low Latency Mode (ALLM), both currently in the Xbox One.

From a physical perspective, the system can be orientated horizontally or vertically – neither of which appear to interfere with the system's cooling vent at the top.

As for the controller, it's been reshaped slightly in size and shape to be more accommodating to more people, and a dedicated share button has been added right in the middle. The d-pad is a new one similar to the one on the Elite Series 2 controller.

Running with the theme of Series X's software backwards compatibility functionality, the controller works with Xbox One and Windows 10 PCs. The new controller comes packed in with the console.
Well I guess that is something if it can really go do 8k @ 120 consistently. Even though 8k TVs aren't really out yet.
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killacross wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:03 am i was gonna buy a new laptop just because. I dont really game or do anything on PC that would make it matter...I just want a battery that lasts longer than 3 minutes
Batteries are finicky little things. You can fast charge them but it's not recommended because it affects the battery life. You can't have them fully charged all the time, you can't have them fully discharged all the time, they're supposed to be occasionally drained, but you shouldn't go past 15% among other things cause it all affects the battery life. -_-
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eddieson wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:21 am
killacross wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:03 am i was gonna buy a new laptop just because. I dont really game or do anything on PC that would make it matter...I just want a battery that lasts longer than 3 minutes
Batteries are finicky little things. You can fast charge them but it's not recommended because it affects the battery life. You can't have them fully charged all the time, you can't have them fully discharged all the time, they're supposed to be occasionally drained, but you shouldn't go past 15% among other things cause it all affects the battery life. -_-
We studied it in school. The cool thing...the professor also discussed that eventually there was gonna be cellphones that would explode because of trying to get more juice out of small packages (he was talking about electric cars at the time but said the same is true for other things that use high capacity batteries... 5-6 yrs later...there was the whole Samsung S7 thing).

I gotta make a list of functionality I want before I buy a newer one. It used to be...get higher performance specs. But now, I use my laptop as my entertainment center
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These days you don't really need a top of the line laptop or desktop to play games and especially if it's to be used as a entertainment center.

And yeah I remember that note s7 incident. I think I read that was because of them not doing a quality control testing when making the batteries.
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I've always wanted to build my own PC. And I want that shit top of the line! I-9 processor, 32 GB of RAM, top of the line graphics cards. I want to future proof it.
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What you're talking about will cost thousands of dollars. And even if you had the money I'd suggest to wait a bit since it's only a matter of time for them to upgrade things like graphocs cards that have hdmi 2.1, or motherboards that have 802.11ax and/ 10Gb lan. Not to mention usb 4 which was finalized this summer. And then there is pci express which most motherboards have been on version 3 for most of the decade, but a version 6 is being worked on to be coming out in 2021.
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eddieson wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:17 am What you're talking about will cost thousands of dollars. And even if you had the money I'd suggest to wait a bit since it's only a matter of time for them to upgrade things like graphocs cards that have hdmi 2.1, or motherboards that have 802.11ax and/ 10Gb lan. Not to mention usb 4 which was finalized this summer. And then there is pci express which most motherboards have been on version 3 for most of the decade, but a version 6 is being worked on to be coming out in 2021.
It's also a trap though, because that new tech is always around the corner.

I generally buy parts 2-3 years behind the trend. I'm not playing new AAA titles on maximum settings, but my desktop has played everything I've wanted to play since I built it 5+ years ago and cost me around $600 if I'm recalling correctly... though apparently I've been practically melting it lately because the cooling system died and I didn't notice.
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xandorxerxes wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:48 pm
eddieson wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:17 am What you're talking about will cost thousands of dollars. And even if you had the money I'd suggest to wait a bit since it's only a matter of time for them to upgrade things like graphocs cards that have hdmi 2.1, or motherboards that have 802.11ax and/ 10Gb lan. Not to mention usb 4 which was finalized this summer. And then there is pci express which most motherboards have been on version 3 for most of the decade, but a version 6 is being worked on to be coming out in 2021.
It's also a trap though, because that new tech is always around the corner.

I generally buy parts 2-3 years behind the trend. I'm not playing new AAA titles on maximum settings, but my desktop has played everything I've wanted to play since I built it 5+ years ago and cost me around $600 if I'm recalling correctly... though apparently I've been practically melting it lately because the cooling system died and I didn't notice.
True, but the reason I say wait is because in the next year or 2 all of that stuff is gonna come out and should drive down the prices of today's top of the line components.
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Originally...I had a desktop back when AOE2 came out. A few years later I got Medal of Honor: Allied Assault. I could play one...but not the other. I upgraded my PC to play MOH. I got a third game that same year (dont remember which) and it wouldnt play...I had JUST upgraded like a month before. THAT experience made me a console gamer for life.

The games that I have played on my PCs --> which is why I eventually went to laptops (because I gave up on upgrading) have been a handful of free MMORPGs...I played Lineage 2 and Warcraft for a few months...and then games like Gunbound, Minecraft. So, obviously not really a PC gamer at all.

Really, I connect my laptop to my home theatre receiver and from there to my Sony TV and Optima projector. I use my computer for 99% of everything entertainment (because I havent turned on my X360 since GTA5 most likely). It's why we dont have cable TV...just internet. The big change this year was that I bought a wireless 5.1 system. My old set up was 1. wired and 2, my laptop, xbox, HD-DVD player (ugh) were all connected through it. "New" house and I honestly dont want to do the work to fish the wires through the walls.

The new set up is wireless, but doesnt have as many inputs. And apparently my laptop does not have the right hardware to put out 5.1 with the new wireless receiver. So that is the first thing I want. The second is that it is almost 10 yrs old...so it's starting to do just all around dumb shit (failure to start up correctly, battery can go from fully charged to power off in <3 minutes, and the fan is squealing at times).

So I do plan to upgrade...but dont really NEED to. Just havent had the driving force to put it into action.
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