Ok so I got into a arguement with my gf last night over this. We were sitting at a pub where saw a drunk chick slap one of her male friends in the face and the beta sat there and did nothing so this pretty much jump started the conversation about men being betas, should men hit women, carrying women's purses etc. As my girlfriend is FOP Israeli with no understanding of America and it's culture or history, I tried to explain to her about how feminism, the single mom epidemic and the deliberate pussyfication of men in America makes men believe it's think ok to take the subservent role in a relationship underneath his women. The media always portrays the fat, bumbling, idiotic husband and the smart, sassy, powerful wife and the kids that treat their dad as a joke and the husband never seem to get the he deserves as the head of the household. As a women her argument was that carrying a your woman's purse doesn't make you gay and it's a nice gesture by doing something make your woman's life a little easier. I explained to her that a man carrying a woman's purse when she could carry it herself is emasculating and embrassing and it shows that the woman has the guys by the balls making him perform a menial task as easy as carrying a 5 pound purse because she's too lazy to carry it herself. To add insult to injury, she asked some scrawny, 120lbs soaking wet with change in their pockets, PBR drinking, skinny jean wearing, hipster looking guys that were at the table next to us would they carry their women's purses and they all chimed "Absolutely!" and two of them had their girlfriends there and my girlfriend made this smug face like "See I'm right again!" and I told her that by looking at them I already knew what their answer was going to be. Am I in the wrong here? Am I overthinking things? Not that I'm doubting my stance because I'll never carry a woman's purse beside my mother's and even then she'd never ask me to. Have women finally "won" where beta behavior is now the norm and any "deviation" from it is deemed unusual or "jerky"? Am I just a chauvanistic throwback of a man that need to "drink the Kool-Aid" and stop lifting dat heavy ass weight, accept my murse and put on my skinny capri pants? Chime in dudes.