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Crazy theory about BlackBeard

#1 User is offline   Tony 

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 03:37 AM

First of all, i want to say i didn't come up with this and i don't really believe it, but i think it's interesting nonetheless.

Here are some facts about BB

-He is an abnormal human who can have the power of multiple DFs. Whether this is a one time thing, unlimited, or if there is a condition to being able to do it is not know. Furthermore, it isn't know either whether this ability comes from his original darkness fruit or from his personal abnormality of which Marco commented on in this chapter. The little information we have on him leaves rooms for a lot of speculation.

-So far, he has two DFs, A logia, and a paramecia.

Here comes the thinking. Some people have theorized that since BB already has two kinds of DFs, he might be after a third kind, the zoan. Since we don't know exactly how his power work, they say that there's the possibility that his ability somehow allows him to posses one DF from each kind.

Now this is the part that i found sort of interesting.

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If you look at BB's jolly roger, it is three skulls all looking in different directions. Now perhaps this is just a coincidence, but it does seem kind of eye-catching and it would fit with their theory.

A further train of thought is that if he's actually after a zoan, there's a pretty good one standing right in front of him and his name is Marco.

What do you guys think?
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Posted 12 March 2010 - 04:55 AM

hangs together pretty well, but in his current state, hed have to do something to provoke marco into fighting him, and i feel like marco wouldnt take the bait. also, i doubt bb is the instigator akainu was. i think this would be a cool development, bb clearly has some serious issues to overcome in terms of knowing when to fight and when to run, and another df would give him another much needed edge if he is to take the throne of 'pirate king' here.

i do like the idea about marco, they did set him up as the ultimate zoan, atleast so far. i really cant see bb flying around though, that would be really weird. not to mention those 3 abilities together would be pretty unfair. (flight/regeneration, gura gura and df negation/subjugation). does open the door to other mythical beast fruits though, which to me seems like a more viable option for a couple reasons.
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Posted 12 March 2010 - 07:03 AM

These theories are all over the place right now but personally I like the idea that he already has the Zoan fruit and his Darkness ability was actually his second fruit. This would explain a number of things including Shank's scar and the three skulls. I think he has made it quite clear that he's no longer looking for any more DF's. He already has more than enough power and he knows it. BB is a man who knows to save the best for last. This is going to be his big show, I don't think he is interested in becoming an overweight bird.
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Posted 12 March 2010 - 11:27 AM

Marcos' DF would remove BBs' greatest weakness, apart from seastone, and that's his susceptibility to physical damage, it would make him nigh on invincible. At the moment you still feel someone like Zoro, Sanji or Jinbei could trouble him as they don't rely on any DF power and could inflict damage on him, of course the gura gura powers give him another dimension now so they'd have to find a way past that but they seem like the best bet against him.

Having said that BB seems to have ridiculous physical toughness anyway, I mean WB caught him with a mean strike from his Bisento and head slammed him with a gura gura cherry on the top and he's still standing, even WB said he should have been dead, maybe that incredible durability is what allowed him to gain another DF power in the first place.

BB is a wily old fox though, he seems to have gathered a lot of information over the years and is executing his plan beautifully.
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Posted 12 March 2010 - 02:22 PM

what if its not that he can have multiple fruits, but he can have 1 of each type of fruit
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Posted 12 March 2010 - 04:16 PM

I don't think he's looking for a third fruit. He waited a long time to get the fruits he has, keeping pretty low key. Now he's declared it to be his age. I think he's already gotten what he wants - whether or not that includes a third fruit or not I suppose is up to Oda.
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Posted 12 March 2010 - 05:19 PM

im just saying i think he can absorb 1 of each type of fruit, not that he is actively seeking the third one.
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Posted 12 March 2010 - 05:30 PM

I think this theory is brilliant. However I don't think he will be taking Marco's DF. I think there will be another zoan out there that he will get. Probably a mythical zoan.
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Posted 12 March 2010 - 11:49 PM

Also another big reason I think he already had the Zoan has to do with his new crewmembers. I don't think BB would be able to get any of the big timers he just released to work under him unless he was able to fully convince them of his ability to carry out his big plan. Afterall, the idea that he's going to be able to handle multiple DF's or steal WB's ability from his corpse would not be very convincing without something to prove BB was actually capeable of it. I get the sense that this is one of the main reasons Oda worked around the scene where Teach convinces Shiryuu to join him.
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Posted 12 March 2010 - 11:59 PM

^ I thought that he convinced them by telling them the plan to steal WB's abilities. That's why BB's new crew wondered what they were going to do if it didn't work last chapter.
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Posted 13 March 2010 - 12:38 AM

What I'm saying is that just telling them is not quite convincing enough. Before making him their leader on the premise that he's going to take an ability off a corpse, he should at least show them he's capeable of more than one ability. Just because Shiryuu wasn't enitely sure it would work doesn't mean he wasn't already relatively convinced it would, I don't think he would be there otherwise... remember his line, "I've been waiting for a man like you." Anyone can talk shit about taking down WB or taking his ability or whatever else, but to make a group like that believe it enough to work under him they had to be convinced by more than just words. At least that is my opinion.
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Posted 13 March 2010 - 02:22 AM

^ i get what you're saying, but if he had showed them his zoan then why did they wonder weather it was going to work this time? Anyway, what kind of zoan you think he has?
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Posted 13 March 2010 - 02:34 AM

Even if he has the ability to use multiple fruits I don't think that neccisarily makes it possible to steal an ability off a corpse. I get the sense that it is a combination of both his own unique body and the powers of the Darkness fruit making this possible. Even if he showed them the two DF's he got by eating, that doesn't mean this plan was definately a sure thing.

As far as what kind of zoan.... something big with black fur and claws.... something that suits his ridiculous toughness and allows him to counter those who come at him with swords (a la Shanks or Shiryuu). Maybe something mythical but nothing that regenerates like Marco. Best guess is something like a giant bear, which I believe was a popular opinion before we found out about the Darkness fruit.
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Posted 13 March 2010 - 05:59 AM

View PostJacoobus, on 13 March 2010 - 02:34 AM, said:

Even if he has the ability to use multiple fruits I don't think that neccisarily makes it possible to steal an ability off a corpse. I get the sense that it is a combination of both his own unique body and the powers of the Darkness fruit making this possible. Even if he showed them the two DF's he got by eating, that doesn't mean this plan was definately a sure thing.

As far as what kind of zoan.... something big with black fur and claws.... something that suits his ridiculous toughness and allows him to counter those who come at him with swords (a la Shanks or Shiryuu). Maybe something mythical but nothing that regenerates like Marco. Best guess is something like a giant bear, which I believe was a popular opinion before we found out about the Darkness fruit.

how about a panther
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Posted 13 March 2010 - 06:22 AM

Anything is possible, but a panther comes off as overly swift for Teach. It doesn't suit his character or his body-type. Also it is too similar to Luchi's leopard fruit for it to make a big enough impact imo... I would expect something exceptionally sturdy and ferocious, but not too fast or agile.
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Posted 13 March 2010 - 02:31 PM

View PostJacoobus, on 13 March 2010 - 02:34 AM, said:

Even if he has the ability to use multiple fruits I don't think that neccisarily makes it possible to steal an ability off a corpse. I get the sense that it is a combination of both his own unique body and the powers of the Darkness fruit making this possible. Even if he showed them the two DF's he got by eating, that doesn't mean this plan was definately a sure thing.

As far as what kind of zoan.... something big with black fur and claws.... something that suits his ridiculous toughness and allows him to counter those who come at him with swords (a la Shanks or Shiryuu). Maybe something mythical but nothing that regenerates like Marco. Best guess is something like a giant bear, which I believe was a popular opinion before we found out about the Darkness fruit.



Maybe he was called Black bear D Teach and like Roger people got it wrong and called him Blackbeard Teach instead.

Ok that's just a joke, it would make a funny sort of sense for him to have a zoan ability too though, I mean the scar he gave Shanks is very animalistic so if he doesn't have a zoan ability too then it'd be interesting to see how he gave him that sort of wound. BB just gets more interesting for me and I'm loving this new twist to him.
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Posted 15 March 2010 - 01:13 AM

I'm saying.... aside from the fact that I don't think he used a set of clip-on nails against Shanks, his fighting style leaves him too open against swords for him to not have some way to counter. He generally doesn't bother to avoid taking damage from what we've seen and relies on his ability to take damage and then return more. However, against a sword he would need to be able to stop/divert the blow somehow in order to avoid getting cut in half and then counter. He doesn't have the speed or agility to dodge, plus it's not his style... I think he has to be hiding something else.
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Posted 15 March 2010 - 02:01 AM

Also how come BB's crew didn't have full confidence in BB's retracting the DF from WB? Are there big risks when taking a DF from someone? I hate how they covered WB when BB was busy retracting the DF. Also can anyone explain what's so special about BB. What abnormality is Marco talking about? Or do is it not explained yet?
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Posted 15 March 2010 - 06:46 AM

^ It hasn't been explained yet. It could be from the fruit, but most people think it's something to do with BB himself. We've some hints before that we never noticed, such as BB telling Ace he had lived two lives, which we thought meant he'd lived twice as long as him but only now realized it was a mistrans and the actual trans was much more literal. Also, from what Marco said this chapter we can deduce that is likely to be something to do with Teach himself.
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Posted 15 March 2010 - 09:50 AM

View PostSilentSneeze, on 13 March 2010 - 02:31 PM, said:

Maybe he was called Black bear D Teach and like Roger people got it wrong and called him Blackbeard Teach instead.


His real name is Marshall D Teach and not Blackbeard Teach but I won't be surprised if your guess will happen. He looks like a stinky black bear anyway.
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